Everything Is Up

Congress, Change & the 24th – A Conversation with TJ Ware

Episode Notes

This week on “Everything Is Up with Tammera,” Tammera Hollerich is joined by special guest TJ Ware for a spirited conversation about Congress, embracing change, and what the 24th means for us all. From headlines to heartfelt stories, this episode explores how significant decisions and national moments impact our everyday lives.

You’ll hear fresh insights, practical advice, and motivating takeaways—perfect for anyone navigating change in 2025. Get inspired, stay informed, and remember: everything is up for discussion!

Tune in for a thought-provoking episode that’s packed with relevance and heart.

Timestamps 

[00:00] – Intro – Welcome back to Marine veteran, entrepreneur, and father of 10, TJ Ware — the “Plot Twist Man of the Universe.”

[01:12] – Disaster Relief & Mental Health – TJ’s work with USDR and Dr. Amy on reducing PTSD in disaster survivors and first responders.

[04:18] – Running for Congress – The big reveal: TJ announces his campaign for Texas’ 24th Congressional District.

[06:45] – Political Polarization & Campaign Finance – How Citizens United changed politics and why TJ pushes for reform.

[10:22] – Building Relationships in Washington – TJ’s approach to influencing change: listening first, leading second.

[14:36] – Education & Equal Opportunity – Why restoring civics and fixing funding gaps between schools is key.

[19:50] – Bridging the Divide – On uniting Americans across party lines and protecting democracy.

[23:40] – Closing & Call to Action – How to connect with TJ and support his campaign.

Quotes

"I run businesses, and sometimes you have to run lean and mean. You think I’m not going to have sharp young people responding to my constituents? That’s my job." -TJ Ware 

"I think what we’re seeing is so many gaps... One key thing you said is that you’re going to listen. I don’t think politicians are listening at all." - Tammera Hollerich 

"Our civics education has fallen so short that people don’t understand how government works or recognize misinformation. We have to invest in education." - TJ Ware 

"History repeats because human nature is consistent. Societies rise and fall. One day America may fall, but hopefully we can delay that."- TJ Ware 

Social Media Links 

Tammera Hollerich 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TammeraHollerich

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tammerahollerich/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thollerich/

TJ Ware 

Email: tj@electtj.com

TikTok: @tjwareforcongress (also mentioned: @tjware)

Instagram: @tjwareforcongress

ActBlue: Search for TJ Ware (used for campaign donations)

Note: All links can be found on his website ElectTJ.com

Websites 

Everything Is Up: https://everything-is-up.simplecast.com/

Tammera Hollerich: https://tammerahollerich.com/

TJ Ware Website:  ElectTJ.com

Episode Transcription

Welcome to Everything Is Up, a podcast about the real-life stories of people who have created extraordinary levels of success. These are

Conversations with People who are constantly striving to take things to the next level. And now, here's your host.

Tammera Hollerich

Welcome to Everything Is Up with Tamara. We're very excited to have, um, what I call the Plot Twist Man of the Universe (laughs), TJ Ware, joining us again. For those of you that might remember, TJ was with us last year, um, and he's been on the podcast a couple of times. But, Um, this is very exciting. Um, this is our mystery man. You are a Marine veteran. You're an entrepreneur and a father of 10, so you wear many Hats, right? So thank you again for joining us.

TJ Ware

(laughs) Thanks. It's good to be here. And, uh, thank God for adaptability. (laughs)

Tammera Hollerich

Right, exactly. Um, so TJ, did I see recently that you and, um, Paradise Claims did some work down in the flood zone?

TJ Ware

So I was actually, uh, in the flood zone with USDR, uh, United Survivors Disaster Relief. Yeah, so we have- we've been real active. Um,

We're kind of on the cutting edge of some work and research into mental health and trauma for disaster survivors and first responders. Uh, and so we, uh- uh, we ha- one of our people is the, uh, amazing Dr. Amy, and she has led the National Institute for Disaster Mental Health for the last eight and a half years.

Tammera Hollerich 

Wow.

TJ Ware

And so I was able to meet with her, um, last year in Upstate New York at, uh, the Institute for Disaster Mental Health Conference. And we had a booth there with the USDR 'cause we've been doing some of this work in multiple states since about 2020. Uh, Nashville tornadoes was my first deployment with USDR.

Tammera Hollerich

Wow.

TJ Ware

And my Family went out there, and then we've worked many storms since. Um, but now we have this, uh, disaster mental health arm that- that is really doing exciting things because after trauma or a disaster, there's a period of time where the incidence of PTSD can be, um, reduced after trauma if certain protocols are followed. And as somebody who has struggled with post-traumatic stress disorder myself, and see, Everyone at the USDR is either like, a combat Veteran Or A Disaster survivor.

Tammera Hollerich 

Wow.

TJ Ware

All of the volunteers, all of us are. Uh, I understand the importance of that, and so I'm glad to be a part of the effort to make a difference.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah, that's pretty- i- i- it's much needed work-

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

… obviously.

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

Um,and, you know, all of us here in Texas are a little close to home on that front with the floods down.

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

And, I mean, it's been very traumatic, I mean, all over the state. Eh- even if you weren't directly affected, you know someone.

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

And there were so many children, um, th- it's so heartbreaking. So I had seen that, um, that you had been doing some work down there,

And I'm like, "Bless you," because that's just a lot of- there's just a lot of work that needs to be done down there, right?

TJ Ware

Yeah, there is. There was an unusually large, uh, loss of life in this incident, and so it's a unique situation, and it's a lot of heartbreak. But of people need to be helped, and I just wanted to mention to you one thing. When I talk about the first responders, everybody can kinda think of, like, um, a fireman-

Tammera Hollerich 

Right.

TJ Ware

… or a police officer, but a lot of times it's maybe a firefighter in their life. Do you have any friends or family that are firemen?

Tammera Hollerich 

I do.

TJ Ware

You You ever talk to them about the things they've encountered at work?

Tammera Hollerich 

The things they see, yeah.

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

I- I  mean, even when they roll up on car accidents and things of that nature-

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

… they see s- eh- I- I don't know how they do it, and I don't know how they go home and not have nightmares.

TJ Ware

Well, s- a lot of them do, and those experiences imprint themselves onto their nervous system, and it actually leads to chronic illness and disease.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah.

TJ Ware

And- and there's medical research that proves it now. So I think we can make a public health case for moving mental health up the ladder of importance for- uh, for our services.

Tammera Hollerich 

Well, we're hoping that potentially you get that opportunity.

TJ Ware

(laughs)

Tammera Hollerich 

And that's a great segue into my next. So, um, you've got all of this world experience, right, as a veteran, as a business owner in multiple fields, and then again as a father of 10, but you just made a huge public announcement that you are running for the 24th District in Congress, correct?

TJ Ware

That's right. Running in the midterms, which is gonna be, uh, November of 2026.

Tammera Hollerich 

November. 

TJ Ware

Right. And so the first session after that would be January 27, is when I would actually be in Washington. So I'm really excited, and it was something that I-I didn't take lightly, and I've- I've also learned that I'm one of the, maybe, minority of candidates that's actually running to win.

Tammera Hollerich 

Wow. (laughs)

TJ Ware

But if I- (laughs)

Tammera Hollerich 

Why run if you don't wanna win, right?

TJ Ware

Well, that's what I would have thought, too, but this is a strange new world for me. I'm learning pretty fast, but I've been involved in government and policy work for about five years, but not really on the political side, so I'm definitely learning a lot.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah. So as I say, plot twist-

TJ Ware

(laughs)

Tammera Hollerich 

...everyone listening (laughs). Um, that was... I- I was like, wow. But you're running as a conservative Democrat.

TJ Ware

Yeah, I- I am.

Tammera Hollerich 

Which I found very interesting, and, um, I had had a conversation here recently with a couple of colleagues about how divided the country is. I mean, you have literally far left, far right, polar-, but yet still most Americans probably sit 20% left or right of the dead center.

TJ Ware

That's exactly right. They're not very far apart all, at all. And on a lot of issues, it's, it's way less than 20%. I mean, the center left and the center right are very close together ideologically, especially on the big things..

Tammera Hollerich 

Sure.

TJ Ware

Okay. It's, uh, the very loud fringes that you hear, but the reason you hear it is because the political polarization benefits the parties and the people trying to take power. And unfortunately, the things that they talk about at those extremes aren't the most important issues for everyone else in the middle. So, yes, my goal is to return some normalcy to politics, some decency, some bipartisanship. But there's mo-, uh, the most important reason I want you to understand this is that when we set government policy, we're setting policy that it may take years, it's gonna take years, decades to see the effect of.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah.

TJ Ware

Okay. So if we live in a nation where rapid political change swings the government from one extreme to the other, and on each swing back, they wipe out the progress of the previous administration, and in the meantime, they issue a bunch of pork and a bunch of people get rich. Like, if we continue that trend, all of our American institutions that make up what we believe is this country, what we think of when we think of America, are going to crumble, and it's gonna affect a whole lot of people.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah. That was kind of one of my questions that I had for you. You know, you've been really vocal about imposing term limits and reforming campaign finance, right?

TJ Ware

Right.

Tammera Hollerich 

Um, what inspired you to focus on these ar-, uh, like, I think I know-

TJ Ware

Okay.

Tammera Hollerich 

… what, uh, probably-

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

But what kind of caused that focus?

TJ Ware

Yeah, that's a great question. So I have a very, uh, analytical mind. Okay?

Tammera Hollerich 

Okay.

TJ Ware

So I look at a problem and I try to break it down, and I really hate treating symptoms. Okay? I, I want to find, like, the core cause, the root of all of this. So if you look at the extreme political polarization, um, really, the thing that has taken it to this unprecedented level is a Supreme Court decision in 2010, uh, called Citizens United. And that essentially allowed an unlimited amount of money to come into politics, which meant that, um, businesses and very, very powerful people now had a much greater influence on politics.

Tammera Hollerich 

Oh, and a big impact with the money that they carry.

TJ Ware

So now it doesn't matter if you do or don't like Trump or Elon, the next guy that buys the presidency could be way worse.

Tammera Hollerich 

Sure.

TJ Ware

So if we don't... Like, there's a lot of really good and smart reforms that I have, uh, for Washington, for this country. But if we can't stop this political machine from treating everything like it's a zero-sum game-

Tammera Hollerich 

Hmm.

TJ Ware

… man, that's a big problem.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah.

TJ Ware

I don't look at hardly anything in life as a zero-sum game. If we can't find a way to align all of our interests, then let's keep working on a better plan.

Tammera Hollerich 

Right. That makes sense.

TJ Ware

But there's a lot of that attitude out there, and so, um, i- campaign finance is really the only way to get at the heart of that issue.

Tammera Hollerich 

So, what are some of the steps that you would take, like, I mean, getting into Washington, obviously that- that's a big step anyway, right? You've got this, you know... Washington is... Well, well, let's be honest. President Biden had been in politics for 45 years, I mean, and here you are, the young guy coming in, and I think that's what we need. We need younger blood, we need smart blood. We don't need all this old money that's there. We're gonna need something. But getting in there, right, is the first step, which I have no doubt you're probably gonna make that happen, because you're there to win. But some of the steps, once you get there, like, now you've got how many people, right, that now you're... And you're pretty, you're, you're pretty good at influencing people. Um, but how, what kind of steps do you think you would take to actually make some of this a reality?

TJ Ware

Well, just to be really frank and honest with you, it's like anything else in life. I'm just gonna build relationships, and I'm gonna meet people, and I'm gonna make friends, and I'm gonna try to listen. And I'm gonna try to listen before I speak. And so far, that's served me really well in my life. Um, I have done a lot of work on myself over the past two years. We talked about some of it before.

Tammera Hollerich 

We did talk about that, yes.

TJ Ware

And it has really, really brought a lot of things together in my life in a very powerful and positive way. And so that gives me a little bit of a renewed, uh, confidence to go there with this mission. I also feel like, I mean, I'm just fighting for good, I'm fighting for righteousness. At this point in my life, like, um, you know, I kind of retired, like, two years ago, so I don't have to work. I'm, I'm not like... Excuse my language, but I fig-, I found out, like, money ain't shit.

Tammera Hollerich 

Right. Yeah.

TJ Ware

You know, you can try to solve every problem you want with money, but like my dad always said, "If money could solve it-"

Tammera Hollerich 

We wouldn't-

TJ Ware

"... it's not a problem." (laughs)

Tammera Hollerich 

It's not a problem, right. No, that's, that's very true.

TJ Ware

So then, you know, my motivations in life shifted, right? It shifted to connection with my family, and then improving things in my community, in my state, and, and in my country. And I am very principled in that way. Um, my beliefs, I think, are still very much, uh, in alignment with a lot of Republicans of 20 years ago.

Tammera Hollerich 

Hmm.

TJ Ware

See? And so I never abandoned a lot of the principles of conservatism. And even though my friends in the Democratic Party, my fellow party members, um, maybe don't understand conservatism or they think it's a dirty word, if you actually go through the principles of conservatism, it sounds really good, but the Republican Party has mostly abandoned that now.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah.Yeah. Interesting. Again, that, that puts me back into that conversation of everybody sitting 20 per- you know, 20% from middle, left, or right. 

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

Right? So there's so much more that we still all agree to. Um, you know, it's funny because if you go back to the principles in which we were raised in, do unto others-

TJ Ware

Mm-hmm.

Tammera Hollerich 

… as you-

TJ Ware

Sure.

Tammera Hollerich 

… wish to have done unto you, right?

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

And I still think that the vast majority of Americans still have those principles.

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

But I think that because of what has happened over the last eight, 10 years, maybe even longer than that. I mean, I think I really started paying more attention to the politics of what goes on in this nation as a business owner myself, right?

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

Um, and, you know, looking at insurance, really probably during the Obama administration when the Affordable Care Act got passed, and then we started to see all... I mean, and whether you think it's good or bad, right? There's good pieces and bad pieces to it.

TJ Ware

Right.

Tammera Hollerich 

It's just... It's so polarizing, right? That all of a sudden now you've got people fighting. people in the same households fighting with each other over politics, and I don't think that that's... As an American and a female business owner, right? I know I have a lot of blessings that have come in my life because if you go back 100 years, women couldn't even vote.

TJ Ware

Exactly.

Tammera Hollerich 

So-

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

… I,I think that what we're seeing is just so many gaps of... One of the key things that you just said is you're gonna listen. I don't think that politicians are listening at all.

TJ Ware

That's the number one feedback that I get from, from constituents is that, "Hey, I sent Beth Van Dyne an email and she never even responded, but she did add me to her email list."

Tammera Hollerich 

Right. (laughs)

TJ Ware

And, like, I've heard that from several people, and people say, "I called her office," all this. But see, I run businesses and sometimes you have to run lean and mean, right?

Tammera Hollerich 

Sure.

TJ Ware 

Uh,I'll get 1.5 to $1.9 million per year to, to run my office in DC. You think I'm not gonna have a bunch of sharp young people with a lot of energy to respond to my damn constituents?

Tammera Hollerich 

Of course.

TJ Ware 

Why wouldn't I?

Tammera Hollerich 

I think.

TJ Ware 

Like, come- that's my job. That's why I'm there.

Tammera Hollerich 

Right.

TJ Ware 

So, there's a disconnect

Tammera Hollerich 

A big disconnect.

TJ Ware 

There's a big disconnect.

Tammera Hollerich 

Um, and I feel that most of us sitting out here feel that way, right? That there's a big disconnect. Washington doesn't listen anyway. I think Trump probably won a huge voter bloc by just saying, "I'm listening. I'm, I'm going to do these things. I heard you." You know?

TJ Ware 

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

He had to go clean up some of his act, obviously, um, the four years he wasn't in office, um, and I think he learned a lot the first time that he was there.

TJ Ware 

He learned how to consolidate power.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah.

TJ Ware 

He definitely learned how to consolidate. So, you know, the founding fathers, they had a, a vision of these three branches of government. The executive branch was, uh, the president, you know, the judicial branch, the courts, and the legislative branch.

Tammera Hollerich 

State branch.

TJ Ware 

Con- Congress, right? And it's checks and balances. There's equal power throughout those. And so the people that are ideologically behind the second Trump administration, uh, believe in a new executive, uh, unitary executive theory-

Tammera Hollerich 

Mm-hmm.

TJ Ware 

… where they want to consolidate all the power under the president, which is why they call these protests the No Kings protests

Tammera Hollerich 

Sure.

TJ Ware 

Because hey're trying to essentially install a monarchy. So this is kind of a last-ditch effort, and it's me and a whole bunch of other people trying to make a difference so that we can preserve the government itself. You know, I used to work in the federal courts, you know that?

Tammera Hollerich 

Yes.

TJ Ware

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

I did know that.

TJ Ware 

Um, uh, or we're all gonna have to try to move to some other country, and I have a lot of people I'd have to move.

Tammera Hollerich 

(laughs) Yeah. You, you are... You definitely have a lot of people you would have to move.

TJ Ware 

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

So, um, given that you have a large family-

TJ Ware 

Mm-hmm.

Tammera Hollerich 

… right? Kind of fun that we started there. Um, and th- you have 10 kids. What policies would you push to help middle-class families throughout the country, particularly in terms of economic opportunity, right?

TJ Ware 

Mm-hmm.

Tammera Hollerich 

Because with inflation holding like it has and, you know, salaries not increasing because employers just don't have the money necessarily, education and healthcare. And I know you've got... You, you talk a lot about insurance as well, and-

TJ Ware 

Mm-hmm.

Tammera Hollerich 

… with me being a consultant in the insurance field, not just... I know y- you're in the PNC side world, I'm in the healthcare side world. But what, what policies do you think would help in these particular areas?

TJ Ware 

Well,I think fundamentally, we really have to look at education in America and invest in our children, and I think that we have to invest in our children in a way that benefits everyone. You talked about some disenfranchisement of, of women voters. Now we have an effort to disenfranchise large groups of voters here in Texas with the redistricting plans on purpose.

Tammera Hollerich

Yeah.

TJ Ware 

You know, it's on purpose, so they can just win, win, win. Not- it doesn't matter what the people want. We'll try to group you in a way where we'll drown out your voice so we can just win, win, win. That doesn't seem like a, a free and democratic society to me. So, um, I Think that, uh… (sighs) You know, it's, it's, it's really interesting. Uh, I, I get caught up in the fact that there are, like, some very foundational underpennings- uh, underpinnings of, of American freedom and society, and I have this deep devotion to the Constitution itself and, and to making sure that the government works the way that it's envisioned to work, and it's a representative government. And I feel like our civics, education has fallen so short that people don't understand how the government works, what the courts are there for, and when there's misinformation coming from certain people in the political sphere or in the Oval Office or whatever, people don't know better than to just believe what they're told. We have to invest in education. And I grew up here in White Settlement, Texas. I went to white settlement schools. And then I moved my butt over there to the nice part of town-

Tammera Hollerich 

(laughs)

TJ Ware 

…  they get a whole lot more money per student.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah.

TJ Ware 

Why would they, who have more resources already, why would they get more money per student than this kid over here that already has less resources? Are you telling me if South Lake Carroll if they can't buy uniforms for their, for their football team, you're telling me they're not Gonna f- throw a fundraiser and somebody's gonna pay for it?

Tammera Hollerich 

Of course.

TJ Ware 

Darnn right they're gonna.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah.

TJ Ware 

Right? But I grew up somewhere different.

Tammera Hollerich 

Hm. Yeah.

TJ Ware 

I think, I think these kids need the same shot.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah. It's the education component, you know, you're talking about civics, right? Um, we know textbooks are being rewritten, right? We know that, you know, monuments are being pulled down around the country.

TJ Ware 

Mm-hmm.

Tammera Hollerich 

Just because you don't want it to have exist- or you want to change it doesn't mean it didn't exist, right?

TJ Ware 

Sure.

Tammera Hollerich 

And we're not learning from the past, which We all know that the past can repeat itself very, very easily if we are not careful.

TJ Ware 

Absolutely. The, the past can, can, uh, and does repeat itself, because the nature of humankind is the same over time. And societies have risen and they have thrived, and they have fallen. Um, unfortunately, history tells us that one day America will fall.

Tammera Hollerich 

That's scary.

TJ Ware 

It is scary. And maybe we can push it out a few hundred years more.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah. I'm hoping, I'm hoping that you might be solving some of those problems for us.

TJ Ware 

I hope so.

Tammera Hollerich 

Right? So looking ahead, right, a little bit here, um, as we kind of start to wrap this up, um, top priorities, um, once you get into Congress, and how do you plan to Unite People Across Party lines?

TJ Ware 

Uh, great questions. Um, you know, right there toward the top of my priorities, I'm, uh, I'm passionate about A Lot of Issues, right?

Tammera Hollerich 

You are.

TJ Ware 

We have to have a thriving economy. We have got to have stability in Our economy. There is wild policy shifts all over the place that are causing people to pull back on, on their 

Tammera Hollerich 

No, but i- they can't afford houses.

TJ Ware

You know, um, but I just mean other countries doing business with America. Like, our economy needs to be growing and thriving, but we've had allies cancel airplane orders-

Tammera Hollerich 

Hm.

TJ Ware 

… because of things that are going on in the in the president's office. So I feel like if I was running this country, I would want our allies to buy more F-35s.

Tammera Hollerich 

Right.

TJ Ware 

Right? They came in and was, uh with, with us on this deal. It's one of the most expensive programs in all of, all of human history, and now

What's going on Washington, it's, it's costing us money, it's costing us jobs here in Fort Worth, Texas. No, I don't, I don't like that, right? We need that economic stability. So that's a big issue. Freedom, democracy. I'm, I'm, I'm not a fan of, um, bans, uh, like gangs of men driving around in minivans wearing masks and military gear, jumping out and grabbing people on the side of the street because they are Brown.

Tammera Hollerich 

Yeah.

TJ Ware 

I'm not okay with this. I have, uh, Hispanic people in my family that I love and care deeply about. When I was 14 years old, I was a mud boy on an all-Hispanic brick crew. And, um, I'm very connected with a lot of the Hispanic people and Hispanic culture here i I told a reporter from Univision last night, I was seeing Keller at that city hall meeting, and I said, "You know, there's a concerted effort from the top to attack some

Of our Hispanic and Latino population and other populations." And I said, "Honestly, in Texas, we just don't take kindly to that."

Tammera Hollerich 

No. Not at all. Not at all. No. That's a very good point. Um, so I know you're super busy. I know you've got to get to Dallas today-

TJ Ware 

(laughs)

Tammera Hollerich 

… for a meeting. And so, um, I really appreciate you taking some time to come with us. Tell people where they can get more Information about you.

TJ Ware 

Oh, thank you so much. Yeah. Well, actually, a couple of things. Number one, it takes money to make this thing happen.

Tammera Hollerich 

Sure.

TJ Ware 

So, you know, TJ is gonna be out there meeting a lot of people, listening to their issues, and then asking them to entrust me with their resources to try to get to Washington, and make a difference in this district for these people and all the people. My website's ElectTJ.com. uh, it's pretty simple. You can shoot me an email, tj@electtj.com. I'm also on ActBlue. Look for me there. All my links are on my website. But please, uh, follow me on TikTok and Instagram, which is now tjwareforcongress.

Tammera Hollerich 

Tjwareforcongress. Okay. You guys heard that, ElectTJ.com. Um, links are there. You can also email TJ at tj@electtj com. 

Tammera Hollerich 

… dot Com. (laughs)

TJ Ware 

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

And so, and then, of course, you can follow him everywhere.

TJ Ware 

Yeah.

Tammera Hollerich 

LinkedIn, Facebook.

TJ Ware 

Facebook.

Tammera Hollerich 

TikTok.

TJ Ware

Uh, TikTok, tjware or tjwareforcongress.

Tammera Hollerich

Perfect. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for joining TJ and I today.

TJ Ware 

(laughs)

Tammera Hollerich

Um, make sure you like and share Everything Is Up, and keep on Looking Up. Thanks, everyone.

TJ Ware 

Thanks.

Tammera Hollerich

Thanks, TJ. Appreciate It. (instrumental music plays)


 

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